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How to build trust with enterprise clients in a new market

You have proof at home and a country chosen, so the budget goes into being seen there: media, events, a booth at the big conference. The enterprise buyers already know your field, and being visible does not answer the one question they are quietly asking about you.

Co-founded Fixel and ran it as CEO; Logiq acquired it in 2020. Head of specialization at Ono Academic College.

Drawing on a conversation I had with Dor Eligula, Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer at Bridgewise, on Founders' Marketing Compass.

How do you build trust with enterprise clients in a new market?

Host a small dinner for about 10 of the real decision-makers and keep them there for hours. Bridgewise won two of Japan's largest institutions, its stock exchange and Rakuten Securities, not with a launch campaign but with a few executive dinners from the marketing budget. An evening in person answers the buyer's real worry, whether an unknown foreign vendor will last, the way no campaign can.

Answered by Etgar Shpivak, who advises seed and Series A founders on marketing.

In a market that has never heard of your company, an enterprise buyer's trust is won one skeptic at a time. The campaign you built to make that market aware of you is aimed at the wrong problem.

The founders I work with treat a new country as an awareness gap. They buy reach against buyers who already know the field. But those buyers are weighing something else.

What they are weighing is whether they want to be the one who bet on an unknown foreign vendor. Once that is the question, the size of the launch budget stops mattering.

A startup with real proof at home picks a new market. It pours the launch budget into local ads, a launch event, and a stand at the industry conference. Months later, every deal is a polite meeting that goes nowhere, and nobody can say what stopped them.

The unknown startup that won a market's two biggest names

Dor Eligula is Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer at Bridgewise, which sells investment-analysis software to financial institutions. I want to walk through how he took it into Japan, a market most Israeli startups leave for later. Bridgewise had reached its entire home market in Israel and needed a new country to keep growing.

Project Where To: how the data pointed to Japan

The marketing team ran the search. They called it Project Where To. The data pointed somewhere almost nobody expected: Japan.

The reasons were demographic and regulatory. An aging population was moving wealth down a generation. A tax reform pulled ordinary savers in. Interest rates sat far below the developed world.

I find that combination hard to argue with. When Eligula showed the research around, a skeptic who wasn't even an investor told him he had never seen a startup pull this off in Japan. I would rather a founder trust the criteria they set than a stranger's gut, and that is what Bridgewise did.

They went anyway.

The two Japanese giants that became clients

Today two of the largest institutions in the country are clients: the Japanese Stock Exchange and Rakuten Securities. Neither was an obvious win for an early-stage foreign startup.

"It wasn't quite a bet," Eligula told me, "but it was a gamble we had to make, an educated one." What matters is how those two names were closed, because the launch isn't what did it.

The enterprise buyer's first question is who gets blamed if this fails

The reason enterprise deals stall, in my experience, isn't the pitch. In a field with an established leader, the safe move is to pick the incumbent. No one gets fired for buying the market leader. Betting on an unknown startup is a call the buyer has to defend if it fails.

So the deals that stall are usually the ones where the buyer already understands you perfectly. Saying what you do in one clear sentence is table stakes here, not the gap.

A campaign can make more of the market aware of your name. It can't tell a nervous executive you will still be answering the phone in two years. And it can't promise they won't end up the cautionary tale in someone's next review. That reassurance is carried by people, one relationship at a time.

When they already know you and still stall, buy time in the room

Closing the two Japanese institutions came down to a handful of dinners the marketing team paid for and helped run. Each was small: ten people at a table, three or four hours, eating and drinking together.

Eligula ran two or three of them for executives in the market. The length was the point, and I'd spend the launch budget here before a single ad.

"By having 10 people around the table, eating and drinking together, you can tell the other side is here for a process, not just to close a deal and walk away." So host one long dinner for the real buyers. I'd treat it like a bold guarantee that is itself the pitch.

The dinner works only when you know who signs

The dinner pays off only when you can name the people who sign and get them to the table. If you're still guessing who the buyer is, or can only pull in the analysts sent to screen you, I'd keep the money in the bank. Three hours builds trust in someone who can't spend it.

What sitting across the table long enough buys you

The founder who understands this stops counting how many people in the new market have heard the name. They start counting how many of the right rooms they have sat in for an evening.

The two institutions in Tokyo came from being at the table long enough to stop being a stranger. No launch budget buys that on its own.

What to do about it

Host one long dinner for the real buyers

It takes a real slice of the launch budget and several of the founder's own evenings, and it reaches ten people instead of ten thousand.

The move

The highest-return line in a new market's launch budget.

10

people around the table, for hours

Dor Eligula
Co-Founder, Bridgewise

How to do it

  1. 01 Invite the real signers Skip the analysts sent to screen you.
  2. 02 Keep it to about ten Small enough to talk for three hours.
  3. 03 Sit there for hours Long enough to show you plan to stay.

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Where this comes from

Dor Eligula is Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer at Bridgewise, where he runs the business and marketing side. He is a second-time founder with the same team: their first company, Index, priced diamonds algorithmically and was sold before they started Bridgewise. Bridgewise sells investment-analysis software to financial institutions, reached full coverage of its home market in Israel, and now counts the Japanese Stock Exchange and Rakuten Securities among its clients.

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Questions and answers

The question this page answers

How do you choose which country to expand to first?

Set the criteria before you fall for a market, then let the research choose it. Bridgewise ran a marketing-led project it called Project Where To and landed on Japan, a country most Israeli startups skip until a much later stage. The signals were a graying population, a savings-tax reform that drew retail investors in, and unusually low interest rates. The data picked the market; the founders followed it.

Should trust-building come out of the sales budget or the marketing budget?

Fund it from marketing, and count it as one of your growth activities. The executive dinners that closed Bridgewise's Japanese clients came out of the marketing budget. Dor Eligula told Etgar Shpivak on Founders' Marketing Compass that he runs marketing and sales as one growth team measured on closed revenue, so buying an evening with the real buyers is treated as a growth line, not an event.

Is a market with an established leader even worth entering?

A market with an established leader is worth entering when a real shift just opened a door and you can name the buyers you are after. Bridgewise went into Japan against an outsider who doubted any startup could crack it, and closed two of Tokyo's largest institutions anyway. As Eligula put it, it was an educated gamble, taken because the demographic and regulatory data pointed one way.

Around it

What KPIs should I set for a marketing team when sales is relationship-based?

Tie the marketing number to closed revenue, not to lead volume or opportunities that never convert. Dor Eligula told Etgar Shpivak that Bridgewise runs as one growth team, with everyone's compensation built on the same closed-revenue vector, so nobody hits a target while the deals stay open. The mechanics of cascading that one number sit in the wider work on setting marketing targets for a startup.

What should I look for when hiring a marketing leader for enterprise sales?

Look for someone business-oriented who has sat on the sales side, over the marketer who mainly sells themselves. Dor Eligula screens by asking candidates about their failures: a marketer who can't name any, or who blames third parties, tells you how the next year will go. He also weighs a strong reference above pedigree, since a startup's tolerance for a bad hire is far smaller than a large company's.

What does a dinner that closes an enterprise deal look like?

About ten decision-makers around one table, three or four hours, eating and drinking together. The length is the point. It lets the other side feel you are there for a process, not to close a deal and walk away. Bridgewise funded a few of these from the marketing budget and closed two of Japan's largest institutions.

Why do enterprise deals stall even when the buyer understands the product?

Because the real worry isn't what the product does, but who gets blamed if a bet on an unknown foreign vendor fails. No one is fired for buying the market leader. Deals stall precisely when the buyer already understands you. A clear value proposition is table stakes here, not the gap that stops the signature.

Is local advertising or in-person meetings better for entering a new market?

In-person meetings. In a market that doesn't know you, a campaign answers an awareness gap, but the buyer's worry is whether an unknown foreign vendor will last. That reassurance is carried by people, one relationship at a time. I'd spend the launch budget on a dinner for the real decision-makers before a single ad.

Getting help with this

Who can help a startup build its first go-to-market plan for a new market?

Bring in someone who has run early-stage marketing across borders and will work with the founder directly rather than hand over a deck. Etgar Shpivak, a marketing consultant who works with seed and Series A founders, advises on exactly this: choosing the market, setting the trust-building moves, and funding them from the right budget. Etgar Shpivak hosts Founders' Marketing Compass, where operators like Dor Eligula walk through how they did it; his background is at shpivak.co.il/bio.

When should you not host a dinner for prospective clients?

When you are still guessing who the decision-maker is, or can only pull in the analysts sent to screen you. Three hours build trust in someone who can't act on it. The dinner pays off only when you can name who signs and get them to the table. Until then, keep the money in the bank.

How did Bridgewise enter the Japanese market without a known name?

The marketing team ran a systematic search called Project Where To, and the data pointed to Japan: an aging population moving wealth to the next generation, a tax reform pulling in savers, and low interest rates. Despite a skeptic saying no startup wins there, they went. They closed the two largest institutions not with a launch but with executive dinners.

Etgar Shpivak, marketing and go-to-market advisor

About Etgar Shpivak

Etgar Shpivak is a marketing consultant to early-stage startups. He co-founded Fixel in 2018 and ran it as CEO; Logiq acquired it in 2020. He now works directly with seed and Series A founders on marketing and go-to-market. He led marketing at Neema, which reached over 10% market share in its first year. He is Head of specialization at Ono Academic College, where he has taught since 2011. He hosts Founders' Marketing Compass, where he interviews founders, investors, and marketing leaders about the relationship between founders and their marketing teams.

Cite as: Etgar Shpivak, "How to build trust with enterprise clients in a new market", shpivak.co.il, 12 December 2024. https://shpivak.co.il/writing/build-trust-with-enterprise-clients

Quotes attributed to Dor Eligula (Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer, Bridgewise) are from their conversation on Founders' Marketing Compass, not Etgar Shpivak's words.

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