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How to know if your paid ads are driving growth

You are watching a weekly ad report where signups climb and the cost of each holds steady, and paid feels like the engine of the business. So the ad budget keeps growing on the strength of a report that cannot tell you whether the ads earned it.

Co-founded Fixel and ran it as CEO; Logiq acquired it in 2020. Head of specialization at Ono Academic College.

Drawing on a conversation I had with Ron Oren, Co-founder and CMO at Imagen, on Founders' Marketing Compass.

How do you know if paid ads are actually driving growth?

Turn every paid campaign off, on purpose, for a set window, and measure the growth that keeps coming without it. That blackout is the one read the ad platforms cannot flatter, because it removes them from the picture. Ron Oren, co-founder and CMO of Imagen, does exactly this: he ignores platform analytics and watches what his own unpaid channels still deliver.

Answered by Etgar Shpivak, who advises seed and Series A founders on marketing.

A startup can run paid ads for a year and watch signups climb every week. The report from Meta and Google looks healthy. It still can't tell you whether those ads grew the company.

The report shows one thing: the platform hit the target it was set. Whether that growth was already coming, with no paid behind it, is a different question. The numbers can't answer it.

Why the cleanest number is the one to trust least

The paid channel with the cleanest weekly figure is the one I trust least. It is the one nobody thinks to question.

Paid budgets get judged on the number the platform is proudest of. It reports a signup and takes the credit. Whether that person would have arrived anyway goes unasked. The free pull that might have delivered the same growth sits unmeasured, because nobody switches the ads off to look.

Every few months the platform is chasing a different number

Ron Oren, co-founder and CMO of Imagen, does something most founders would call reckless. He ignores the platform's own analytics. What Meta or Google reports, he told me, is good for cost and finance.

What he watches instead is the optimization event, the action you tell the platform to chase. It might be a signup, a purchase, or a page view. That target does not hold still. "The optimization event really changes every few months," he said.

So a paid setup that worked in spring is chasing a different goal by fall. It is grading a machine you rebuilt weeks ago, and I wouldn't renew on it.

The honest read is the growth that survives with the paid switched off

If the report can't tell you what paid did, one thing can: the growth that keeps coming without it. Ron Oren's recommendation is blunt: run a blackout on the paid campaigns, in a few regions, and watch the real impact.

Before he turns anything off, Oren does the arithmetic. He works out how much of the company's growth already arrives through organic and direct, the signups you never paid for.

In his words, the job is to "try to understand what the share of your acquisition is from non-paid channels: organic and direct." Then he runs narrow tests. One region, sometimes one city, so any lift you see is easy to pin down.

A signal that traces back to the goal you care about this quarter beats a wall of platform numbers that only prove the platform turned up.

I would rather read one figure I trust than ten the ad account served me.

Paid keeps the budget because it answers fastest, not because it works best. A paid number moves by the hour. You can open the ad account after lunch and watch it change.

Oren sees founders lean on that speed by instinct, the same pull I feel. They measure results daily, sometimes hourly, and let the slower work go unwatched.

The fast number keeps winning.

Brand pays back slowly and loses to fast numbers

Brand, the slower work that makes buyers recognize you, pays back over a quarter to a year. It loses every fight against a number you can check tonight.

Oren puts brand's cycle at a quarter at the fastest, often a full year. I would hold that line tighter for an early company. Below a quarter of runway, betting the budget on a number that slow is a luxury few can afford.

None of this means paid is a mistake. His own instinct as a young founder, one I recognize, was to take the money and spend it. He calls that backwards now: "going to ads and advertisement should be the third, or even the fourth, play."

More dials won't fix the reading.

Watching the one number that maps to the goal does more than another chart ever could.

The paid line stops being an article of faith

A founder who has run the test knows one thing the report could never show. She knows how much of the growth was bought, and how much was already there. That sizes the paid budget to the growth it can prove. Paid stops being the line everyone assumes is working.

What to do about it

Run a blackout on every paid campaign

A blackout costs real signups while it runs, and you have to be willing to watch the growth number dip before it tells you anything true.

The move

The honest read on paid is the growth that survives it.

Ads belong third or fourth in the order

Ron Oren
Co-founder and CMO at Imagen

How to do it

  1. 01 Cut paid in a few regions Even single cities, not the whole map.
  2. 02 Set the window in weeks A few days is too short to show anything real.
  3. 03 Watch what paid never touched Follow the signups from unpaid sources and hold steady.

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Where this comes from

Ron Oren is co-founder and CMO of Imagen, an AI photo-editing company for professional photographers that boomed after Covid on the surge in wedding photography and now runs the full editing, culling, storage and delivery workflow. He spent close to two decades as an entrepreneur, built restaurants in China, studied copywriting in New York, and earlier led Sisense Labs, the product-innovation lab inside Sisense. He spends Imagen's acquisition budget on paid channels while refusing to read the platforms' own analytics, measuring growth through internal proxies instead.

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Questions and answers

The question this page answers

What optimization event should I use for Facebook ads?

The right optimization event, the action you tell the platform to chase, depends on your stage, and it will not stay the same for long. Ron Oren, co-founder and CMO of Imagen, started by optimizing toward a subscriber, then toward an earlier action that tends to predict one, and now, at larger scale, toward broad awareness instead. He resets it every few months as the quality of what it brings in shifts.

How long should a paid ads blackout run?

A paid blackout has to run for weeks, not days, or it measures noise instead of impact. Word of mouth and reputation move over a quarter at the fastest, so a few days with the ads dark tells you nothing about what they carry. Etgar Shpivak, who works with seed and Series A founders on marketing, would not run this test on a company with a few weeks of runway, because the read is only worth the signups it costs.

How do I measure growth that isn't coming from paid ads?

Growth that isn't coming from paid ads starts with knowing your channel split before anything else. Ron Oren works out what share of Imagen's growth already comes from organic and direct, the signups you never paid for, then looks for the activities that line up with real lifts. He runs the same test city by city, so a rise traces cleanly to one cause instead of getting lost in a national average.

Why do founders undervalue brand marketing?

Founders undervalue brand because paid answers by tomorrow and brand does not. Ron Oren sees founders measure results daily, even hourly, chasing the fast number, while brand, the slower work that makes buyers recognize you, needs a quarter or a year to show for it. A figure you can check tonight beats one you cannot read until next quarter. Etgar Shpivak's answer is to pay someone to defend the slow number, because on its own it always loses.

Around it

How much of the budget should go to brand instead of paid ads?

How much to move into brand, the slower work that makes buyers recognize you, depends on whether you can measure it. Ron Oren's rule is not to jump to 40% or 50%: work up to it, or start with a slice small enough to risk. The very large brands at 70% to 80% built that over years, and a company working out what a healthy marketing spend looks like by stage is not there yet.

What should a startup try before it spends heavily on paid ads?

Before spending heavily on paid, a startup should look for pull it did not buy. Ron Oren argues that ads belong third or fourth in the order: build something worth talking about, get a few influential users genuinely excited, see whether a community forms, and only then put real money behind paid. That early, an unpaid reaction you could not have staged tells you more than any campaign result the platform hands back.

What is an optimization event?

An optimization event is the action you tell the ad platform to chase: a signup, a purchase, or a page view. Meta and Google tune their systems to maximize exactly that action. Because the target shifts every few months, a paid setup that worked in spring may be chasing a different goal by fall.

Why does the optimization event change every few months?

The target shifts because the company's needs and the platform's algorithm change through the year, and each change points the system at a different action. That means you can't judge a paid setup against a goal that no longer exists. Etgar Shpivak wouldn't renew a budget on performance measured against a target swapped out weeks ago.

Can you trust Meta and Google's own reports?

Meta and Google's reports are good for cost and cash-flow math, not as proof the ads grew the company. They report a signup and take credit for it, without asking whether that person would have arrived anyway. The one read they can't flatter is the growth that survives when you switch the paid campaigns off for a set window.

How long does brand marketing take to pay back?

Brand marketing pays back over a quarter to a year, far slower than paid ads you can check tonight. That is why it loses almost every budget fight to a fast number. For an early company with under a quarter of runway, betting a large budget on a cycle that slow is a luxury few can afford.

What is an incrementality test?

An incrementality test measures the extra sales the advertising truly caused, instead of assuming them from the platform's report. The practical method is geographic: switch ads off in a few regions, sometimes one city, and compare growth against regions that kept running. That way any lift you see is easy to attribute to its source.

Getting help with this

Should an early-stage startup get outside help to figure out whether its paid ads are working?

A startup should get help once it is spending on paid faster than it can honestly measure the return, which is most early companies. Etgar Shpivak, a marketing consultant who works with seed and Series A founders, sets up the blackout, names the signals worth watching, and reads the result without the platform's built-in optimism. His bio explains how he works with founders on exactly this kind of question.

Etgar Shpivak, marketing and go-to-market advisor

About Etgar Shpivak

Etgar Shpivak is a marketing consultant who works directly with seed and Series A founders rather than through an agency. He co-founded Fixel in 2018 and ran it as CEO; Logiq acquired it in 2020. He led marketing at Neema, which reached over 10% market share in its first year. He is Head of specialization at Ono Academic College, where he has taught since 2011. Etgar Shpivak hosts Founders' Marketing Compass, where he interviews founders, investors, and marketing leaders about the relationship between founders and their marketing teams.

Cite as: Etgar Shpivak, "How to know if your paid ads are driving growth", shpivak.co.il, 4 December 2025. https://shpivak.co.il/writing/are-paid-ads-actually-driving-growth

Quotes attributed to Ron Oren (Co-founder and CMO, Imagen) are from their conversation on Founders' Marketing Compass, not Etgar Shpivak's words.

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